Determine Thread / Bolt Size

Both Revo 12|16 wood lathe’s have very stripped threads in the lock handles that keep the quill (tail stock) stable. As such, when you attempt to tighten the quill against a spindle or workpiece, it is currently impossible to actually keep the quill locked. It’s possible to work with, but could lead to some frustrating, or even dangerous, operations.

I can reorder these from Laguna, but I know I can get them from somewhere else for cheaper and quicker if I can get the thread size and bolt size right.

Does anyone have any good techniques for accurately determining thread size and bolt size?

The parts manual only says “Lock Handle” and offers no clues to the sizes.

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I believe one of those pictured was purchased by us as a replacement. I’ll look through the purchases to see, but there may be extra in the top left drawer. I can take a look this/tomorrow evening

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there is a set of thread checkers in the metal shop also there is a pitch set. I would just use the thread checkers on wherever they go in. probably m6-1 or 1/4-20 both super cheap and common
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there are thread sizers in the metal shop (edit: yes, what Eric said :slight_smile: )

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Thread checkers sounds like exactly what I need. Do you know where exactly they live?

@drew.hynes yes I think one was a replacement. I haven’t checked the amazon history yet. I think we nailed it on this one on the first try, but I remember going through a couple of rounds on a different sized one. I’ll get schooled up and post what I find so we can make turnaround on this easier in the future

I found this?

The 1.0 seems to line up pretty well

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Found a 1 1/4" -20 screw and it does not fit the hole.

The thread checkers are hanging on a wire line that is hanging from a magnet on the left side of the manual mill table (the black husky table).

I found this mad max looking thing

I believe m6-1.0 is the correct one.

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Additionally, looks like the tailstock itself may be stripped. Even with a new lock handle, I think there’s another issue to address.

Is this something that could be corrected with the same size thread tap and die kit? Or would it have to be a larger size?

Or could it be that this material would be too tough for the tools we have and a replacement tail stock would be easier and more cost effective?

I can’t tell from the picture if it’s stripped or not, but if it is you can either buy an m6-1
steel insert thread which will be a good solution but is slightly harder/more expensive to do than just upsizing to m8-1.25. that is just cast-iron or cast steel not an issue to work with. the tools on hand to step up to the m8-1.25 are in the metal shop. M6-insert requires a special tap(I probably have one but need to look)

Either option is cheaper and easier to do than to replace the tail stock.

only possible issue with stepping up to the m8.125 is you might have to grind down the end of the bolt if it doesent fit in the keyway.

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Knowing how I had to retap the tool rest made of the same material, I wouldn’t be surprised if the inside has stripped a bit. Still looks like there’s some thread in there though. I’ll see if I have a normal M6 bolt at home to try out in those slots before retapping.

I have a set of threaded helicoil inserts if we want to go this route. Like Eric said this is the best route. Let me know if you need it?

@drew.hynes do you know when you’ll be able to check it out?

@EricP @JoeN I appreciate the insights here. This is definitely something I’m haven’t had much experience with and would love to see it happen so I know better in the future.

Here is a helpful video. Youtube Cast iron is meh sometimes for threads.

That is pretty cool.

I’m fairly confident at least one of these is stripped, or mostly stripped. I found another m6 bolt and it slide through with just a little bit of force.

@JoeN is that a kit you have and could bring in sometime soon?

I installed a helicoil in the tail stock
without the bed extender. It seems to be working fine, I will get to the other one later.

Do we have new locking bolts for tail support. The ones we have are a bit beat up.

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You’re awesome. New bolts are on the way

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Thanks so much for doing that! This is the link to the ones we bought previously, but looks like some are on the way: Amazon.com

I was able to finish the other tailstock this morning. I tried to rehab the worse of the 2 lock bolts. It was too beat up and did not want to be thread chased. I threw it away. I assume the lock bolts should be arriving soon.

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